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Having a team with ten people who studied computer science, a team that also includes a lawyer, philosopher, and someone with an MBA leads to new insights that in turn drive innovation and cool solutions.
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’ Having a team with ten people who studied computer science, a team that also includes a lawyer, philosopher, and someone with an MBA leads to new insights that in turn drive innovation and cool solutions. ’
Gamze joined the security team at Accenture in September 2019 as an analyst and quickly got promoted to consultant. In that role, she works on different projects for different clients. Besides her position as a consultant, she makes use of Accenture’s extensive opportunities by being involved with the marketing team, culture and engagement and doing work to promote diversity and inclusion, mostly focusing on women in security. Michelle is a veteran at Accenture and has worked there in different positions for the last 16 years. Currently, her main function is that of bid manager in the Sales division. Michelle is one of the founders of the Dutch ‘Women in Tech’ network and is currently working on setting up a gender equality taskforce.
Having a team with ten people who studied computer science, a team that also includes a lawyer, philosopher, and someone with an MBA leads to new insights that in turn drive innovation and cool solutions.
Gamze Ülker & Michelle van der Wouden
Security Consultant / Sales Bid Manager
If you choose to enter the security and privacy field at this moment or in the next 20-30 years, the world is at your feet.
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’ If you choose to enter the security and privacy field at this moment or in the next 20-30 years, the world is at your feet. ’
In 1987 I started at the PTT, the predecessor of KPN. After two years I then switched to APT, a joint venture between AT&T and Philips telecommunication, working on corporate telecom centers. After a couple of years, in 1992, I was invited for a small three-week assignment in Asia. That got a little out of hand and turned into a ten-year project!  It was an amazing adventure and good period for me personally as well. I met my late wife there and we had our child there. In 2002 I moved back to the Netherlands with the plan to stay for two years but that also went a bit differently than expected. I was asked by a Dutch contact in New-Zealand to help his collaboration platform land in the European market.
If you choose to enter the security and privacy field at this moment or in the next 20-30 years, the world is at your feet.
Jaap Meijer
Cyber Security and Privay Officer
Nobody asks a psychologist to build a firewall, but often IT personnel is expected to adequately mitigate the security risks caused by human behaviour.
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’ Nobody asks a psychologist to build a firewall, but often IT personnel is expected to adequately mitigate the security risks caused by human behaviour. ’
Inge Wetzer has become a recognizable face on stage at the ONE Conference in the Hague over the years. When she’s not on stage to discuss the importance of behavioural change in the field of cybersecurity, Inge works at Secura as a Social psychologist cyber security & compliance. We sat down with Inge right in the middle of the Covid-19 lockdowns to discuss her journey from academics to cyber security.
Nobody asks a psychologist to build a firewall, but often IT personnel is expected to adequately mitigate the security risks caused by human behaviour.
Inge Wetzer
Social psychologist cybersecurity & compliance
Since I was a teenager I have been fascinated by technology and its impact, today I can form a bridge between the ‘tech-savvy’ and people in non-technical positions.
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’ Since I was a teenager I have been fascinated by technology and its impact, today I can form a bridge between the ‘tech-savvy’ and people in non-technical positions. ’
Life-long learning and climbing the education ánd professional ranks is the name of the game for Joeri. We were curious to find out which educational pathway and what attitude has gotten him to his current position. So we sat down and asked him about his perspective.
Since I was a teenager I have been fascinated by technology and its impact, today I can form a bridge between the ‘tech-savvy’ and people in non-technical positions.
Joeri Donker
Governance, Risk & Compliance Consultant
People, process and technology: Combining digital business and human behavior insights in the field of cyber security
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’ People, process and technology: Combining digital business and human behavior insights in the field of cyber security ’
During her first years as a student, Laura never thought she would be working in cyber security right now. We had a talk with her to hear how she became a cyber security advisor after obtaining a master’s degree in Business Administration. Read the interview to find out how she found her way into this challenging job in this growing domain and what her work actually entails.
People, process and technology: Combining digital business and human behavior insights in the field of cyber security
Laura Sumajow
Advisor Cybersecurity at EY
That's what I love about IT: there's always so much work because it keeps changing.
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’ That's what I love about IT: there's always so much work because it keeps changing. ’
Educating talent is key in securing the future. Teaching students secure programming helps them building better and more secure applications. As a teacher Application Development and Media Design at the ROC Mondriaan, Hanneke grows the talent pool for us all and keeps up-to-date with the latest technology trends.
That's what I love about IT: there's always so much work because it keeps changing.
Hanneke Kool
Teacher Application Development and Media Design
What I like is that I can do the investigation and research an incident and then come back with concrete results
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’ What I like is that I can do the investigation and research an incident and then come back with concrete results ’
As an incident handler she is the knight in shining armour when a crisis emerge.This time we interviewed Mandy, to find out what her tasks are in the KPN-CERT department and how she got to where she sits now. Read the interview to find out all about her role.
What I like is that I can do the investigation and research an incident and then come back with concrete results
Mandy Mak
Incident Handler at KPN-CERT
For the time being I’ll keep doing all sorts of different things I find interesting.
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’ For the time being I’ll keep doing all sorts of different things I find interesting. ’
When you complete the infamous Kerckhoffs master, a well renowned name in the security scene it's obvious that you will need a good challenge when you start your career. Erwin found this challenge at TNO where he started as a researcher and security consultant. Read how he got there and what kind of challenges he encounters in his work.
For the time being I’ll keep doing all sorts of different things I find interesting.
Erwin Middelesch
Researcher and Security consultant
I never thought of working in cybersecurity before, but it’s such an interesting business and there’s so much going on.
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’ I never thought of working in cybersecurity before, but it’s such an interesting business and there’s so much going on. ’
Karin never thought she would be working at a cybersecurity company when she was looking for a job after graduating. But a friend introduced her to SecureLink and since then the industry has won her heart. She tells us why she has become so enthusiast about this buzzing fast-paced sector.
I never thought of working in cybersecurity before, but it’s such an interesting business and there’s so much going on.
Karin van Rijswijk
Team Lead Inside Sales
All the elements of cyber security that I liked came together in security monitoring
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’ All the elements of cyber security that I liked came together in security monitoring ’
Bryan is still young of age but has already gained extensive experience in various disciplines of cybersecurity. Looking at security with a curious and positive attitude helped Bryan take his future in his own hands. Read what he did and what he learned from those experiences.
All the elements of cyber security that I liked came together in security monitoring
Bryan Beekhof
Product Manager Cyber Security
If a person is attacking you, they try to hide and you really have to investigate it thoroughly to find out what’s going on.
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’ If a person is attacking you, they try to hide and you really have to investigate it thoroughly to find out what’s going on. ’
Bas works as a Security Analyst in the Security Operations Center (SOC) at DearBytes. We were curious to find out what kind of challenges and incidents a Security Analyst has to deal with and what life is like at DearBytes.
If a person is attacking you, they try to hide and you really have to investigate it thoroughly to find out what’s going on.
Bas van den Bosch
Security Analyst
It’s that combination between the technical and social aspects of information security that make this job so attractive to me
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’ It’s that combination between the technical and social aspects of information security that make this job so attractive to me ’
While he has only just graduated from his bachelor in Information Security Management, Fynn already secured himself a challenging job as a security engineer at Guardian360. We had a talk with him about why he choose for a career in cybersecurity and his work.
It’s that combination between the technical and social aspects of information security that make this job so attractive to me
Fynn Loeffen
Security Engineer
It’s my job to get all the relevant Lego bricks on the table so we can build with that.
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’ It’s my job to get all the relevant Lego bricks on the table so we can build with that. ’
IT offers endless opportunities. Someone who really took advantage of that throughout his career is René. Being involved in tech since the 1980's he has gained lots of experience working in different roles. Read the interview what his experience and views on the trade are.
It’s my job to get all the relevant Lego bricks on the table so we can build with that.
René Pluis
Lead Cyber Security for the ‘Digitale Versnelling Nederland’ (Country Digitisation Acceleration) Programme
Functionality and security can and must really go hand in hand now.
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’ Functionality and security can and must really go hand in hand now. ’
In the banking world security has always been a very important aspect of the business. From the traditional vaults to the secure mobile banking apps of today. As a principal consultant at Innopay Ronald combines his expertise in innovative business applications with the high security demands of the financial sector.
Functionality and security can and must really go hand in hand now.
Ronald Hoeksma
Principal Consultant and Technology Lead
You don’t just need to look at ‘how to make’ something but also at ‘how to break’ it.
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’ You don’t just need to look at ‘how to make’ something but also at ‘how to break’ it. ’
Stein is a perfect example of someone who does not have a typical security study but found his way into the security domain through experience and a curiosity for the business. Read his interview to find out how he got to be the Chief Technology Architect at a succesful security startup.
You don’t just need to look at ‘how to make’ something but also at ‘how to break’ it.
Stein Welberg
Chief Technology Architect
It’s all about finding and protecting those ‘crown jewels
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’ It’s all about finding and protecting those ‘crown jewels ’
As an Information Security Consultant, Mike helps organisations identify potential risks and threats to their core business and how to deal with this. Read the interview to find out what he does exactly to protect the 'crown jewels'.
It’s all about finding and protecting those ‘crown jewels
Mike Onderdelinden
Information Security Consultant
There probably will always be some malware that keeps very deep and dark secrets
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’ There probably will always be some malware that keeps very deep and dark secrets ’
Rickey is a familiar face in the Dutch cybersecurity industry. He is often asked for his expert opinion on national television and radio. We visited the RedSocks Security office to have a chat with Rickey and find out how he became such a well known guest.
There probably will always be some malware that keeps very deep and dark secrets
Rickey Gevers
Cyber Security Expert
I stayed in the IT security business because it´s such a dynamic field and you have fun colleagues
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’ I stayed in the IT security business because it´s such a dynamic field and you have fun colleagues ’
Raymon is one of the founders of EclecticIQ and responsible for the product development within the company. Read the interview to find out how Raymon got into the IT security and what he likes so much about it.
I stayed in the IT security business because it´s such a dynamic field and you have fun colleagues
Raymon van der Velde
Vice President Product
An ethical hacking course was the game changer that led to the career I had in mind, combining IT and criminality
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’ An ethical hacking course was the game changer that led to the career I had in mind, combining IT and criminality ’
That you don't necessarily need a background in IT to be drawn to cybersecurity is demonstrated by Anneloes. We had a chat with her to hear how she became a cybersecurity consultant after obtaining a Master degree in criminology.
An ethical hacking course was the game changer that led to the career I had in mind, combining IT and criminality
Anneloes Geerts
Cybersecurity Consultant
At the University I got more attracted to the ‘soft side’, so I decided to focus more on human aspects and resources besides just the machine part.
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’ At the University I got more attracted to the ‘soft side’, so I decided to focus more on human aspects and resources besides just the machine part. ’
We sat down with Mary-Jo to talk about her job and what she's up to at the moment. As an Associate partner at Revnext, Vice-president of Women in Cybersecurity and President of the Platform Internet of Toys, there's never a dull moment for Mary-Jo.
At the University I got more attracted to the ‘soft side’, so I decided to focus more on human aspects and resources besides just the machine part.
Mary-Jo de Leeuw
Associate Partner
Putting my knowledge and skills to use to make our product better is really rewarding
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’ Putting my knowledge and skills to use to make our product better is really rewarding ’
We sat down with Reinier to have a chat about his job and background. As a software developer at Business Forensics, Reinier is involved in making the software for a digital forensics product. Find out what he does on a daily basis to discover the diversity in the field of (cyber)security.
Putting my knowledge and skills to use to make our product better is really rewarding
Reinier Klarenberg
Software Developer
I get to meet with people and go to places I would have never dreamed of.
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’ I get to meet with people and go to places I would have never dreamed of. ’
That the security domain is so diverse becomes aptly clear when we interview Jan Wouter. He works for Aerialtronics, a company that builds drones for a variety of applications. One of them being security. We sat down with Jan Wouter to find out what he does on a daily basis.
I get to meet with people and go to places I would have never dreamed of.
Jan Wouter Kruyt
Vice President Strategic Partnerships

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